SartodiNapoli's Shirt, Tie & Pocket Square Company

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Dear folks,

I am preparing my upcoming selection of silks and would like to know your thoughts, as at this time i will buy max 8 references. This are Marinella style. I got more sheets than this.

NOTE; Swatches are printed on paper, not on the real silk ( sadly) so product will be glossy and different, as this;


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and here? I guarantee this is not ancient thrist or vintage thirst. Will be printed to my request. ( or any who pays them)
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I have no problem with the print whatsoever. I'd shy away from the brighter blues myself. The varieties of colorways do show several that are barely different at all.
 
Folks,

Got no marketing idea, some friends are suggesting that my orthodox views about society, dressing etc are damaging my isales, but i think i never wanted igents as clients.

Question is, how could i improve my sales? Sure i need better pics and a real web, but that can´t be at this time but on the future. Are serious dressing blogs, not tackyshills, other forums, or serious places i can buy banners( never bribe) etc?

Thanks
 
gufasd said:
Faster shipping would help. One thing to consider when doing business is whether you want your personal ethics to interact with your sales. I would definitely agree that your personality loses some sales with those you call tacky, likely from others as well.

Also it's hard to recommend a place to put advertisements when I'm not sure what business model you are taking. Some questions include:
-are you committed to making bespoke items, or are you willing to make a variety of ties ahead of time and try to sell them?
-are you looking to only focus on ties, or do you plan to branch out?
-do you only look to buy things such as banners or ads, or are getting places in stores or in catalogs options?
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Hi, the faster shipping, all the recent but two commisions have been done and shipped in two weeks, and one was due to my own fault due to travelling sorry, the pochette for a member here, and other client gave a wrong adress, so his envelope could have not incluided on the mail office day ( the postal is on the other part of the city and half a day is needed, so we compile to have enough boxes to employ half a day going) others chosen ups, that is at 2 minutes walking from us and got in 24h in their countries( well i paid 24, and got 48h), how was that? But we do as fast as we can, record was same day made.( this might happen once on a year, honestly)

All is made bespoke, ties or pochettes at this time , or to order, different linings, measures, lengths, hand embroied initials. Have no stock of garments out of a few samples already made as test or show ( or for myself)

At this time, any client got the same exact parameters of other, so perhaps i would eat myself the rtw line you suggest? I hope not

Bespoke shirts will be made soon, once my neurotic maniac quality is achieved, with a free test muslim sent before to correct the pattern if needed and give ultimate fit support ( no shirts without buttonholes as on others lol) I have started with it and doing the muslims for some people at this time.

What is catalogue options? Would like to be on stores as mtm service ( actually i think, humbly, i got the biggest
fabric option, since i work with all the good mills, while on the NYC corners of the brands i have practiced and learnt from, are just a selection of fabrics my friend and one of the masters did, maybe 100 fabrics vs 5000 or more i can get but i am humble and unless is for personal friendship, i doubt Berdorf Goodman choses me as they buy brands or know names ( anyway won´t lose my selfstem asking him lol)

I wonder who and how booked the fake tiemaker and if he got success selling to shops other than scamming clients.

Thanks for the help.
 
Sartodinapoli said:
Hi, the faster shipping, all the recent but two commisions have been done and shipped in two weeks, and one was due to my own fault due to travelling sorry, the pochette for a member here, and other client gave a wrong adress, so his envelope could have not incluided on the mail office day ( the postal is on the other part of the city and half a day is needed, so we compile to have enough boxes to employ half a day going) others chosen ups, that is at 2 minutes walking from us and got in 24h in their countries( well i paid 24, and got 48h), how was that? But we do as fast as we can, record was same day made.( this might happen once on a year, honestly)

All is made bespoke, ties or pochettes at this time , or to order, different linings, measures, lengths, hand embroied initials. Have no stock of garments out of a few samples already made as test or show ( or for myself)

At this time, any client got the same exact parameters of other, so perhaps i would eat myself the rtw line you suggest? I hope not

Bespoke shirts will be made soon, once my neurotic maniac quality is achieved, with a free test muslim sent before to correct the pattern if needed and give ultimate fit support ( no shirts without buttonholes as on others lol) I have started with it and doing the muslims for some people at this time.

What is catalogue options? Would like to be on stores as mtm service ( actually i think, humbly, i got the biggest
fabric option, since i work with all the good mills, while on the NYC corners of the brands i have practiced and learnt from, are just a selection of fabrics my friend and one of the masters did, maybe 100 fabrics vs 5000 or more i can get but i am humble and unless is for personal friendship, i doubt Berdorf Goodman choses me as they buy brands or know names ( anyway won´t lose my selfstem asking him lol)

I wonder who and how booked the fake tiemaker and if he got success selling to shops other than scamming clients.

Thanks for the help.
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do you offer ties with the condor legion logo as small print?
 
Sartodinapoli said:
Folks,

Got no marketing idea, some friends are suggesting that my orthodox views about society, dressing etc are damaging my isales, but i think i never wanted igents as clients.

Question is, how could i improve my sales? Sure i need better pics and a real web, but that can´t be at this time but on the future. Are serious dressing blogs, not tackyshills, other forums, or serious places i can buy banners( never bribe) etc?

Thanks
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Same thing as anyone, don't be a douchebag. I wouldn't buy Jessica Biel's pussy from you because you are such a freak.
 
gufasd said:
If you are dead set on sticking with bespoke or Mtm garments the feud with many igents is likely going to be an issue. Most stores that offer bespoke of another service cater to igents and are run by igents. You might try looking into advertising your range of fabrics as a selling point and trying to go to somewhere like the armory, but considering their employment of scammers that will likely not work out. You might want to post up a classifieds listing here with an outline of the services you offer.
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^this

Sartodi Napoli Sartodi Napoli the single most important thing you will have to do if you wish to be taken seriously as a merchant of shirts and ties you cannot continue to post the way you currently do by attacking SF members, bloggers and everyone else. To be successful, you cannot express your dislike for people otherwise they will dismiss you.

You have knowledge so state your point clearly and objectively. Work on your English so that you can communicate more clearly and concisely instead of creating massive rants.

You should no longer invoke the name of God or express homophobic opinions.

As for selling your products, use a good camera to take high quality pictures. The pictures you currently take do not work very well for enticing people to buy you fabrics, ties etc.

Use a website, Facebook, or a blog site to display your products. Instagram and other internet sites can be used to display your merchandise and services.

Once you are established and you figure out where you will eventually live you will have to decide on where your atelier will be. Are you going to do things only over the Internet? That may work for ties but what about shirts?

Get the people who have bought you ties etc. to post about them or put testimonials on your site.

You will need to start immediately creating a new online personality that tells people you are a trusted craftsman and not a whack job.
 
If he continues to post as he does that will negatively Impact his sales. He is not established so his products don't speak for themselves.

It is the internet, someone can stop being a jerk and eventually all will be forgotten.

His level of vitriol makes Alexander Kabbaz seem downright nice and reasonable.
 
gufasd said:
It only will impact his sales if he does not make a new name for his sale profile. Just act basic and professional for his sales and he can do whatever he want for his personal handle.
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except that he will be selling on the fora in which he posts. that is pissing in one's own bathwater. so if he sells outside of the various fira he posts in all is fine. but these foa are where he wants to sell
 
gufasd said:
That assumes he is willing to do business with those he so virulently posts against. I would not imagine that he wants to do business with the tackys he so despises. An alternate source of business is to provide decent service to a small number of members who can go out and provide him increased avenues for success. This all hinges on his choices though (and likely improving his english).
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Why don't you check out his ads on said forums.
 
So before you pontificate, do some research and see who his current customer target group is and you will find it is on the same forums that he posts his unique rants.
 
Of course you have. With you in his corner he can only succeed with no change in his posts. Perfect really.
 
Perfect. And you don't think that people have not figured out all of his previous identities that he was banned with in the past. MOP is well known already.

His posts are easily identifiable no matter what his alias currently is.
 
Thruth said:
^this

Sartodi Napoli Sartodi Napoli the single most important thing you will have to do if you wish to be taken seriously as a merchant of shirts and ties you cannot continue to post the way you currently do by attacking SF members, bloggers and everyone else. To be successful, you cannot express your dislike for people otherwise they will dismiss you.

You have knowledge so state your point clearly and objectively. Work on your English so that you can communicate more clearly and concisely instead of creating massive rants.

You should no longer invoke the name of God or express homophobic opinions.

As for selling your products, use a good camera to take high quality pictures. The pictures you currently take do not work very well for enticing people to buy you fabrics, ties etc.

Use a website, Facebook, or a blog site to display your products. Instagram and other internet sites can be used to display your merchandise and services.

Once you are established and you figure out where you will eventually live you will have to decide on where your atelier will be. Are you going to do things only over the Internet? That may work for ties but what about shirts?

Get the people who have bought you ties etc. to post about them or put testimonials on your site.

You will need to start immediately creating a new online personality that tells people you are a trusted craftsman and not a whack job.
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Thanks all,

When one has a business, he choses his target. You already have readed what do I DO NOT desire as clients. Also my ties are classic business formal so not for pitti dressers anyway. ( Even most of my clients are bounced
ex scammer scammed clients, who are getting top service for 60% less than him, also that money is not used to polute the sartorial world with Mimo´s crap. Anyway all educated people are welcome.

About this;

You should no longer invoke the name of God or express homophobic opinions.

Curious, since 3 years ago i wanted to call my brand as my family surname is, using the logo of it. Most of my clients are different from Christian ( also welcome as i welcome all who are religious of any kind) but not sure if might be offensive to them.

Santo Sepulcre of Jerusalem, maybe not with the double red cross, as it might look German. but in monocolor or with the full logo

( note this post will be selfdestroyed after some hours, to avoid some bastard copying the name) Please tell me your views
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Imagine a heavy carton box in a cute color with any of this on the cover and with the word, since 1915 on this ( My grandfather started being the boss of a mill with only 15 years old)
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Second i am not vitriol or do work for the Illuminati Antichrist as Alexander does.
 
gufasd said:
He can succeed with a change in his nom de plumme, allowing him full freedom as sarto and full work ethic as whatever he so chooses - maybe MOP?
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I also plan to get my blog soon of DENUNCE AND EXPOSSE of tackys, untailors, bloggers and scammers, where i would offer as well all my products.

Sartorial Advocate will be

Sartorial Attourney

Sartorial Inquisitor ( wow, this is the good one)
 
gufasd said:
I think it would be better to have the upper left most image, with the name not having of Jerusalem. Maybe in a bit darker and less saturated red though. I am glad you are not selling to tackys though. No need to dilute your brand.
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But it looks a Condor Legion or Red Baron´s plane logo, maybe is the worst of all. I like the barroque ones, as igents got so low culture that can´t id any of the tons of motives incluided there, just see a " cool vintage " thing.
 
Thruth said:
except that he will be selling on the fora in which he posts. that is pissing in one's own bathwater. so if he sells outside of the various fira he posts in all is fine. but these foa are where he wants to sell
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Also i want to attract customers with bad taste and Higher Morals, and i am doing a great legion of fans thanks to my post, let me tell you.

I am the only who defends the Honour and Truth and help people to avoid scams, hypes or low quality.

I can´t be a faker as the other, ohh i love your pink socks and your cowboy booths, complimenti.

He used a psychologic strategy to attract most of those igents who sadly suffer of inmatureness and Histrionic disorder, those needs compliments as are insecure, so as PSYCHOPATH, played a role of converting on his selfsteem drugdealer, and those needed him as dependant wifes do need his drunk man.

  • A need to be the center of attention
  • Low tolerance for frustration or delayed gratification
    • Tendency to believe that relationships are more intimate than they actually are
    • Making rash decisions[4] ( buying crap ancient fake ties to get complimentis)

    • Being easily influenced by others, especially those who treat them approvingly ( his selfsteem drugdealer)
    • Being overly dramatic and emotional[6] Look my latest Mimmo prickozzi yellow carpet
 
I was going to say that a brand identity of some sort is needed and I actually like the proposed one, to include the logo.
Is there an Instagram account? I know there's something on facebook, but I try to avoid that and I recall it being a photo dump.

My stabs in the dark are:
1. Just start with an eBay or Etsy shop or something similar. This offers accessibility and transparent reviews. Made to order stuff is nothing new on either.
2. Promote yourself outside the already crowded sartorial arena. I have to imagine you are on boards discussing other subjects. Go in the off-topic area of some political or religious board and mention that you have these wares. Why jump into areas already filled with competitors?
3. As soon as possible, get some markings of a real business. Labels, business cards, a presentable web presence. For the minimal investment, it lends much validity and legitimacy to the appearance of the enterprise.
 
How about Number of the Beast Ties & Squares.

Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast....
 
I would say he would qualify as what Americans call a paleoconservative. He'd get along great with Pat Buchanan. I have no problem with that, but a merchant of any kind is wise to subdue their politics.
 
gufasd said:
I'm confused at the recent backlash to sarto especially in reference to the designs. This seems like some liberal groupthink, to denounce old christian or pagan symbols for their use by new people. Does anyone seriously think he is a facist?

Yes, some recent posts may be a bit over the top - but some recent posts seem like nothing but firewood.
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He's not a fascist he's an idiot. And his latest post are a lot less over the top than usual. Actually the are more under the bottom on the relative sarto scale.
 
gufasd said:
Talking about terrorist attacks on sartorial gatherings is a bit over the top. Done in jest, yes, but still over the top - especially when accompanied by video stills of executions.
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Pretty much par for the course and relatively minor compared to the past.
 
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